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hamil minum sari kedelai by "Zulie Furdiana" zuliefurdiana
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Bls: [sehat] hamil minum sari kedelai by "Zulie Furdiana" zuliefurdiana
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Bls: [sehat] hamil minum sari kedelai by "siska pertiwi" fs_sisc4
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Bls: [sehat] hamil minum sari kedelai by "Zulie Furdiana" zuliefurdiana
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Re: hamil minum sari kedelai by "sam mike" samsul_na
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Bls: [sehat] hamil minum sari kedelai by "Zulie Furdiana" zuliefurdiana
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Mon May 27, 2013 10:56 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Zulie Furdiana" zuliefurdiana

dear smart parents n para dokter....
memang ya butuh perjuangan untuk belajar menjadi the best mom for aour children,,,,
email padeeetttt pake banget...hehehe
tp gpp lah, yang penting kan ilmunya ya bunda....
sesuai subjek di atas, ada temen saya hamil sekitar 5 bulan, dr awal kehamilan setiap hari minum susu kedelai, di samping konsumsi suplemen dr dokter n bidannya,,
bagaimana efek konsumsi sari kedelai jika di lakukan setiap hari,
makasih ata sharingnya....

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Mon May 27, 2013 11:13 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

Siang mb Zulie,

Gmn kalau browsing soy milk, cari di kellymom atau RCOG, ACOG. Mengenai rekomendasi makanan pada ibu hamil.
Hemat saya, makan aj sehat seperti biasa.
Balik ke food plate

Maaf klo ga bantu
Win
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Mon May 27, 2013 11:22 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Zulie Furdiana" zuliefurdiana

terimakasih banyak dr windhi,
browsing browsing = belajar belajar belajar....

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Judul: Re: [sehat] hamil minum sari kedelai


Siang mb Zulie,

Gmn kalau browsing soy milk, cari di kellymom atau RCOG, ACOG. Mengenai rekomendasi makanan pada ibu hamil.
Hemat saya, makan aj sehat seperti biasa.
Balik ke food plate

Maaf klo ga bantu
Win
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Mon May 27, 2013 11:25 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"siska pertiwi" fs_sisc4

kebetulan saya pas hamil dulu rajin minum sari kedelai tiap hari.banyak yg menganjurkan spt itu sih, katanya anaknya bersih kalo lahir.tapi saya mulai minum sejak pertengahan trisemester kedua. Ketika lahiran, anak saya ternyata bener2 bersih, entah pengaruh sari kedelainya atau yg lain..hehe..
Setahu saya susu kedelai untuk trisemester pertama tidak baik.

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Dari: Zulie Furdiana <zuliefurdiana@yahoo.co.id>
Kepada: mILIS <sehat@yahoogroups.com>
Dikirim: Selasa, 28 Mei 2013 12:56
Judul: [sehat] hamil minum sari kedelai


 
dear smart parents n para dokter....
memang ya butuh perjuangan untuk belajar menjadi the best mom for aour children,,,,
email padeeetttt pake banget...hehehe
tp gpp lah, yang penting kan ilmunya ya bunda....
sesuai subjek di atas, ada temen saya hamil sekitar 5 bulan, dr awal kehamilan setiap hari minum susu kedelai, di samping konsumsi suplemen dr dokter n bidannya,,
bagaimana efek konsumsi sari kedelai jika di lakukan setiap hari,
makasih ata sharingnya....

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Mon May 27, 2013 11:28 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Zulie Furdiana" zuliefurdiana

wah...ilmu baru nih...
pernyataan mbak siska :
Setahu saya susu kedelai untuk trisemester pertama tidak baik.
tidak baik nya kenapa ya??

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Dikirim: Selasa, 28 Mei 2013 13:25
Judul: Bls: [sehat] hamil minum sari kedelai


 
kebetulan saya pas hamil dulu rajin minum sari kedelai tiap hari.banyak yg menganjurkan spt itu sih, katanya anaknya bersih kalo lahir.tapi saya mulai minum sejak pertengahan trisemester kedua. Ketika lahiran, anak saya ternyata bener2 bersih, entah pengaruh sari kedelainya atau yg lain..hehe..
Setahu saya susu kedelai untuk trisemester pertama tidak baik.

________________________________
Dari: Zulie Furdiana <zuliefurdiana@yahoo.co.id>
Kepada: mILIS <sehat@yahoogroups.com>
Dikirim: Selasa, 28 Mei 2013 12:56
Judul: [sehat] hamil minum sari kedelai

 
dear smart parents n para dokter....
memang ya butuh perjuangan untuk belajar menjadi the best mom for aour children,,,,
email padeeetttt pake banget...hehehe
tp gpp lah, yang penting kan ilmunya ya bunda....
sesuai subjek di atas, ada temen saya hamil sekitar 5 bulan, dr awal kehamilan setiap hari minum susu kedelai, di samping konsumsi suplemen dr dokter n bidannya,,
bagaimana efek konsumsi sari kedelai jika di lakukan setiap hari,
makasih ata sharingnya....

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Mon May 27, 2013 11:35 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

wulandari.winny

Hehehe mbak siska,,, saya juga dulu waktu hamil rajin minum susu kedelai...efeknya sih enak hehehe... Dan alhamdulillah Allah SWT mentakdirkan anak saya berkulit bersih... Hehehe


Winny
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Mon May 27, 2013 11:56 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"sam mike" samsul_na

Moms,
maksudnya berkulit bersih = berkulit putih atau bagaimana ?
memang ada bayi lahir dg kulit 'kotor&#39; ?
kriterianya apa ya ?
gimana jika yg mengkonsumsinya ibu2 yg kebetulan berkulit berwarna, apa ada
efeknya ?

thanks,
sam - makan secukupnya & seperlunya

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Tue May 28, 2013 12:09 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Zulie Furdiana" zuliefurdiana

mungkin maksudnya kulitnya ada yg mengelupas....(cmiiw)
soalnya ada tetangga saya waktu lahiran kulit debay nya banyak yang mengelupas gitu, sampai 2 bulan sepertinya belum ilang juga....

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Kepada: sehat <sehat@yahoogroups.com>
Dikirim: Selasa, 28 Mei 2013 13:56
Judul: Re: [sehat] hamil minum sari kedelai


 
Moms,
maksudnya berkulit bersih = berkulit putih atau bagaimana ?
memang ada bayi lahir dg kulit 'kotor&#39; ?
kriterianya apa ya ?
gimana jika yg mengkonsumsinya ibu2 yg kebetulan berkulit berwarna, apa ada
efeknya ?

thanks,
sam - makan secukupnya & seperlunya

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Tue May 28, 2013 12:10 am (PDT) . Posted by:

Ikutan nimbrung ya bund:

Selain susu kedelai,
Yg bagus untuk bumil air kelapa ijo... (kata teman2 atau ibu2 yg sudah mempraktekkan)

Jadi mikir: 2-2 nya diminum atau salah satu aja ya?
Hmmm.... Adakah yg sudah pengalaman? :)

Mksh share nya..

Mon May 27, 2013 11:07 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Ghozansehat" ghozansehat

fyi
again.....

Glucosamine Supplements Tied to Risk of Eye Condition
Seniors taking them had side effect that has been linked to glaucoma,
small study finds

Thursday, May 23, 2013
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Related MedlinePlus Pages

Dietary Supplements
Glaucoma
Osteoarthritis

THURSDAY, May 23 (HealthDay News) -- Glucosamine supplements that
millions of Americans take to help treat hip and knee osteoarthritis may
have an unexpected side effect: They may increase risk for developing
glaucoma, a small new study of older adults suggests.

Glaucoma occurs when there is an increase of intraocular pressure (IOP)
or pressure inside the eye. Left untreated, glaucoma is one of the
leading causes of blindness.

In the new study of 17 people, whose average age was 76 years, 11
participants had their eye pressure measured before, during and after
taking glucosamine supplements. The other six had their eye pressure
measured while and after they took the supplements.

Overall, pressure inside the eye was higher when participants were
taking glucosamine, but did return to normal after they stopped taking
these supplements, the study showed.

"This study shows a reversible effect of these changes, which is
reassuring," wrote researchers led by Dr. Ryan Murphy at the University
of New England College of Osteopathic Medicine in Biddeford, Maine.
"However, the possibility that permanent damage can result from
prolonged use of glucosamine supplementation is not eliminated.
Monitoring IOP in patients choosing to supplement with glucosamine may
be indicated."

Exactly how glucosamine supplements could affect pressure inside the eye
is not fully understood, but several theories exist. For example,
glucosamine is a precursor for molecules called glycosaminoglycans,
which may elevate eye pressure.

The findings are published online May 23 as a research letter in JAMA
Ophthalmology.

The study had some shortcomings. Researchers did not have information on
the dose or brand of glucosamine used, and they did not know how long
some participants were taking the supplements.

Duffy MacKay, vice president for scientific and regulatory affairs at
the Council for Responsible Nutrition, a Washington, D.C.-based trade
group representing supplement manufacturers, said the findings don't
mean that people should stop taking the supplements.

"This research letter raises questions and introduces a hypothesis that
should be explored further, but the small number of cases investigated
and the [fact that] researchers did not count capsules or control for
dose or intake or duration of use of glucosamine provide extremely
limited evidence of harm," MacKay said.

"This study should not change consumer habits; however, individuals with
glaucoma or ocular hypertension who are taking glucosamine should let
their doctor know so that the appropriate monitoring of intraocular
pressure measurements can be done to identify any changes," he said.

MacKay concluded: "The good news is that increased IOP was reversible.
So if you take the product, and your IOP goes up, then you can stop
taking the product to see if it returns to normal."

However, previous studies have raised questions about whether
glucosamine supplements provide any health benefit to consumers. A large
recent study concluded it had no healing effect on arthritic pain.

The potential relationship between glucosamine and glaucoma is new to
Dr. Scott Fudemberg, a glaucoma surgeon at Wills Eye Institute, in
Philadelphia. "The mechanism about how people can develop glaucoma isn't
completely understood, so how the supplements may play a role isn't
completely understood either," he said.

While the study found an association between taking glucosamine and
increased eye pressure, it didn't establish a cause-and-effect relationship.

The best thing that anyone can do to preserve their vision is to get
regular eye exams, Fudemberg advised. "Glaucoma can be treated with
medications, lasers and/or surgery," he said. "These findings pose a
question about whether oral glucosamine can raise intraocular eye
pressure, but it doesn't provide an answer. More research is now needed
before any conclusions can be drawn."

SOURCES: Scott J. Fudemberg, M.D., glaucoma surgeon, Wills Eye
Institute, Philadelphia; Duffy MacKay, N.D., vice president, scientific
and regulatory affairs, Council for Responsible Nutrition, Washington,
D.C.; May 23, 2013, JAMA Ophthalmology, online

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/news/fullstory_137137.html

Mon May 27, 2013 11:09 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

Makasih infonya Pak e,

Mau nambahin aj,
Glucosamine utk nyeri2 sendi atau OA pada org tua, posisinya sama aj ky placebo,
Ga pernah masuk dalam guideline, tp konsumsinya kaya kacang goreng, dan harganya setinggi langit.

Windhi
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Tue May 28, 2013 12:08 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"yoga pranata" doyogh

> Glucosamine utk nyeri2 sendi atau OA pada org tua, posisinya sama aj ky
placebo,
> Ga pernah masuk dalam guideline, tp konsumsinya kaya kacang goreng, dan
harganya setinggi langit.
>
> Windhi

seperti yg saya bilang, masyarakat Indonesia merupakan pasar yg empuk dan
mudah dimanipulasi :(

uda waktunya melek :)

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Mon May 27, 2013 11:20 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

dinot_st80

Terimakasih dr. Windhi, pak Arief atas infonya.

Salam,
Dina
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Mon May 27, 2013 11:36 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

desyp_nugroho


Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...!

-----Original Message-----
From: "Purnamawati, SpAK" <purnamawati.spak@cbn.net.id>
Sender: sehat@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 08:30:37
To: <sehat@yahoogroups.com>
Reply-To: sehat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sehat] Makanan pedas dan lambung

Dear Selly

thx buat SP yang sudah menanggapi

makanan pedas tidak menyebabkan peptic ulcer
monggo browsing dengan kata kunci tersebut

wati

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> Dear All,




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Mon May 27, 2013 11:41 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

desyp_nugroho


Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...!

-----Original Message-----
From: "Purnamawati, SpAK" <purnamawati.spak@cbn.net.id>
Sender: sehat@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 08:30:37
To: <sehat@yahoogroups.com>
Reply-To: sehat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sehat] Makanan pedas dan lambung

Dear Selly

thx buat SP yang sudah menanggapi

makanan pedas tidak menyebabkan peptic ulcer
monggo browsing dengan kata kunci tersebut

wati

Quoting cablaktekno@gmail.com:

> Dear All,




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Our biggest gratitude to HBTLaw and PT. Intiland, who have consistently sponsored our program, PESAT (Program Edukasi Kesehatan Anak Untuk Orang Tua)."
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